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TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984) DC Comics

cover:  George Perez
Date: Jul 1984
Cover Price: $0.75

The Judas Contract Book 3.

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Cover reprinted on OS NOVOS TITÃS #19 (Brazil) and DE NEW TEEN TITANS #10 (Netherlands)

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    • RIP George Perez To all of George’s fans and friends, Constance here, with the update no one wants to read. George passed away yesterday, peacefully at home with his wife of 490 months and family by his side. He was not in pain and knew he was very, very loved. We are all very much grieving but, at the same time, we are so incredibly grateful for the joy he brought to our lives. To know George was to love him; and he loved back. Fiercely and with his whole heart. The world is a lot less vibrant today without him in it. He loved all of you. He loved hearing your posts and seeing the drawings you sent and the tributes ...
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    Nightwing was created out of necessity

    posted Sep 2, 2017, 11:42 AM by Vu Nguyen [ updated Sep 2, 2017, 12:30 PM ]

    From Vu

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    From the Titanic Minds Full Transcript we see that Nightwing was created out of necessity. The editor of Batman at the time (Len Wein Denny O'Neil) wanted Robin back in his title, so Marv Wolfman came up with the best possible plan - give them Jason Todd (created by  Gerry Conway and Don Newton) as Robin, but keeping Dick Grayson as a new character: Nightwing.

    Marv Wolfman: ... the editor of Batman wanted Robin back. And he wanted to make Robin young again. And I fought that and finally suggested a win-win type of situation which is the only way you get anything done really, if you can come up with it, was, let them have Robin back but we keep Dick Grayson.

    That fit with our story. He's been growing up, he's been. He wanted to step out on his own. It was time to get him out of those short green pants.

    And they loved the idea 'cause I said, "You can make it a big contest, you can do a whole big thing "to promote the first new Robin in 50 years," or whatever it was at that particular point.

    But let us have Dick Grayson at the age he is now, so we're able to do two or three issues where he quits being Robin, uh, has his meeting with Batman, quits, and then when the Titans are in trouble, he forms a new identity, which sort of honors Batman because he calls himself Nightwing, he's in the dark... But he's still the young guy, he's still the very sexy guy.

    He's still the character we were creating. And it allowed the first teenage sidekick to grow into his own hero.

    Nightwing may hit theaters before The Batman

    posted Jul 19, 2017, 5:00 AM by Vu Nguyen


    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    Holy dose of reality, Batman! Every DC Comics fan has been marvelled by the acrobatic and fighting abilities of the Dark Knight’s first and best protégé. And after shows like Arrow and the past DCU movies have set the bar high on physical performance, Nightwing director Chris McKay expects his lead to encapsulate that completely.

    Famous for his work as director of last year’s Lego Batman Movie, McKay is a devout Nightwing fan and went into detail as to what fans can expect in Grayson’s first solo cinematic treatment, which hints at a possible (and hopeful) cameo from the Dark Knight himself, played by Ben Affleck.

    “The story of Dick Grayson becoming Robin, and then becoming Nightwing played out for us, in the comics in real time. It wasn’t a flashback. We experienced it. So all of Robin/Nightwing’s successes and failures, we were along for the ride. And people who underestimated Robin or dismissed him perhaps had their opinions changed as we watched him ‘grow up’ right in front of us. His relationships, his conflicts with Batman, it all felt real to me because he was the window character with which we experienced Gotham City.”


    Although in pre-production, we may see Nightwing hit the screens before Matt Reeve’s The Batman since the script has been scrapped...

    Joe Manganiello to play Deathstroke, the Terminator
    posted Sep 11, 2016, 7:36 PM by Vu Nguyen

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
    DC Comics is reporting that Joe Manganiello will play Deathstroke in the upcoming Batman film:


    Batman will face comic book villain Deathstroke, played by “True Blood” star Joe Manganiello, in Ben Affleck’s first solo movie playing the Dark Knight.

    Affleck recently shared a video online of Manganiello in his Deathstroke get-up, but didn’t reveal the actor underneath the mask or what role the character would play in upcoming films.

    DC Entertainment president and chief creative officer Geoff Johns confirmed the casting in his first interview discussing his new role overseeing Warner Bros.’ movies based on DC Comics characters.

    How to make Deathstroke costume

    posted Feb 18, 2016, 2:27 AM by Vu Sleeper

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    Deathstroke Costume
    February 17, 2016

    Deathstroke is a supervillain that resides in the dc universe. Created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez in the 1980’s, Deathstroke is as ruthless has name implies. He is most notably known for being an enemy of the teen titans. Deathstroke was originally a U.S soldier, he gains superhuman strength from a super-solider project. Deathstroke becomes obsessed with revenge when his son is Grant is killed. He also recently appears in the tv series “Arrow” in which he seeks vengeance for the death of shadow, in which he blames the arrow for.

    The Deathstroke costume is quite complex as there are a lot of parts to it. The essential items in this Deathstroke outfit are the infamous Deathstroke mask and the black armour and clothes which I managed to find. I have included links below to make it easier.

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    Deathstroke #0 swipes from Tales of the Teen Titans #44
    posted Sep 14, 2012 3:29 PM by Vu Nguyen

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    Swipe File: Rob Liefeld, Marv Wolfman And George Perez
    Written on September 14, 2012 by Rich Johnston in Comics, Swipe File

    So how close was Deathstroke’s origin in Deathstroke issue zero, to the original in Tales Of Teen Titans 43?

    Very, it seems…

    Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! - #44
    15 July 2008, 4:43PM CDT by vu (vu sleeper)

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)

    Comics Should Be Good Top 50 Countdown! - #44

    Monday, July 14th, 2008 at 11:52 PM EST

    Here’s #44! Click here for the master list!


    Tales of the New Teen Titans #44

    This one is pretty tough, because what you have here is the introduction of two fairly notable characters and simply the re-naming of another hero (while also, yes, the first appearance of another character, but I’m sorry Jericho fans, he isn’t that noteworthy).

    However, all said and done, I think the sidekick of Batman, Dick Grayson, becoming a new character, Nightwing, is more significant than the Wasp appearing in Tales to Astonish #44 (interesting that they’re both Tales issues!) and Gorgon appearing in Fantastic Four #44 (which is less about Gorgon appearing as it is the first appearance of the Inhumans, kinda).

    But really, this issue, which was the penultimate part of the Judas Contract, is just a slightly larger piece of comic book history than those issues, as the New Teen Titans by Marv Wolfman and George Perez was one of the highest-selling comic books of the early 80s, this was perhaps their most famous storyline, and it involved Dick Grayson, one of the most famous comic book characters in all of comics.

    So I’m pretty confident in saying that this was the most notable #44 out there.

    Still, Tales to Astonish #44 and Fantastic Four #44 are notable runners-up, as well as strong issues of Sandman, Swamp Thing, Doom Patrol and Amazing Spider-Man.

    Any other good #44s?

    Robin Left the Nest and Took Flight as 'Nightwing'
    News Fri, 26 Jan 2007 02:54:38 CST Vu
    Robin left the nest and took flight as 'Nightwing'
    By Bill Radford, The Gazette
    Last update: January 25, 2007 – 4:52 PM


    Dick hasn't worn the Robin suit in a long time, though. In the 1980s, he left the nest -- or the Batcave, anyway -- and became a new costumed crime fighter, Nightwing. He graduated to his own self-titled series in the '90s.

    That series recently got a new writer: Marv Wolfman, who along with artist George Perez created the Nightwing character more than 20 years ago.

    "It's a thrill," Wolfman said. "I had wanted to write the book originally and wasn't really given the opportunity."

    Dick Grayson was 18 or so when he became Nightwing. He's hardly ready to pluck out gray hairs, but he has aged several years since then.

    Marv Wolfman Interview at
    News Thu, 02 Nov 2006 21:17:54 CST Ilke

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
    Marv Wolfman: From ROBIN to NIGHTWING: Chronicling the Adventures of Dick Grayson
    By: JENNIFER M. CONTINO, Columnist
    Date: Thursday, October 19, 2006


    CINESCAPE: You've been known to really involve your artists in your stories. After working with some of these creators are you seeing your relationship grow like what happened with George Perez are do you view the comics scene as different now with everyone having a specific role and no intermixing of those?
    WOLFMAN: I don't know. Dan and I knew our run would be only four issues, and I was writing full scripts, so Dan's involvement came after the fact. Had we done more I'm sure the relationship would have evolved. As I mentioned, the new artist has already said he wants us to work together on the book, so I'm thinking that's good. George and I talk about the fact that we'd both sublimate our own egos for the sake of the book because that has to come first. If the book was good we'd get the reflected glory. So I don't think that's changed today.

    News: Wolfman on Nightwing

    Thu, 28 Sep 2006 22:50:39 CST [ submitted by Marcus ]
    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
    DC Comics
    written by Marv Wolfman


    In 1984, in the pages of Tales of the Teen Titans #44, the always incredible George Perez and I took Dick Grayson out of his old Robin green shorts, red tunic and yellow cape and created the new hero, Nightwing. I was the sole writer of Nightwing for the next 12 years until I left the Titans in 1996, and I never stopped caring for him in all that time. I now have the chance to come back to this character I helped give life to and I'm hoping you'll give us a look as well as hang in there as we put into effect all our long-range plans.

    News: First Appearance Series #3: Nightwing

    October 22, 2004 02:53 pm
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    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    First Appearance Series 3: Nightwing

    After earning his stripes as Batman’s sidekick Robin, Dick Grayson became Nightwing, leader of the Teen Titans, in 1984’s TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44! This figure features multiple points of articulation, includes a base and a mini-reproduction of the comic in which the character first appeared, and is packaged in a 4-color deluxe blister.

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     February 10, 2004 | Question of the Issue Reponses
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    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    Question of the Issue?
    Thread started on: 02/08/04 at 12:40am

    Tony Lorenz : Hi everyone, I still need response to the question of the issue "What is your favorite Titan's cover and why?"

    Reply #1 on: 02/08/04 at 4:22pm
    Mark Metz: I think I have to go with New Teen Titans 21 (the Baxter version). The image of the Titans fallen in the know imaged within Cheshire's green costume has always been one of the most striking covers of the series to me. I had dropped Titans before that issue, but later, I had to have that one for the cover alone.

    It's everything a photoshop user like me wishes I could draw myself rather than use an application to do so. George's artwork her is truly amazing.

    Reply #2 on: 02/08/04 at 7:20pm
    That is my favorite cover of the Teen Titans by George Perez. The cover introduces three new characters, all in a very heroic stance. In each of the background, it tells the story of the character. This is definitely one of the best cover ever made!

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     December 26, 2003 | Comics 101: Batman
    From Movie Poop Shoot

    December 17, 2003
    By Scott Tipton


    In “A Lonely Place of Dying,” a 5-issue story by Marv Wolfman, George Perez and Jim Aparo that saw print in the pages of BATMAN and NEW TITANS, readers saw Dick Grayson attempt to intervene and make his former mentor realize he needs help. Meanwhile, both Bruce and Dick were surprised by the appearance of teenager Timothy Drake, who stuns the two with the announcement that he’s deduced their secret identities as Batman and Robin. Tim, it turns out, was a child of three or four when he saw the Flying Graysons’ trapeze act at the circus, and saw young acrobat Dick Grayson perform an amazing triple somersault, an image that was burned into his memory. When, years later, he saw news footage of Robin executing the same maneuver, he put two and two together and realized that Robin was the ex-circus performer Grayson. When a little research revealed that Grayson had been adopted by billionaire Bruce Wayne, whose own parents were murder victims, everything fit. After the disappearance from the public eye of the second Robin, Tim had also noticed the increasingly erratic Batman, and decided to intervene as well.

    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    December 10, 2003
    By Scott Tipton

    In addition, a new sidekick for Batman had been introduced in the pages of DETECTIVE COMICS, a young boy named Jason Todd, whose parents had been killed in a manner strikingly similar to Dick Grayson’s. Accordingly, writer Marv Wolfman and artist George Perez, in the pages of their top-selling series THE NEW TEEN TITANS, got permission to have Grayson retire his Robin uniform, and not long after introduced Dick Grayson’s new costumed identity – Nightwing.

    The name was taken from an obscure Superman character (when Superman and Jimmy Olsen would shrink down and visit the bottled Kryptonian city of Kandor, occasionally circumstances would compel them to take on their own superhero identities: Nightwing and Flamebird), and Grayson attributed the identity as a tribute to his two greatest inspirations: Superman and Batman. Although the costume was a little rough at first, (particularly a gigantic disco collar that made Lex Luthor’s purple ‘70s number look subtle in comparison) the Nightwing identity was an unquestionable success, leading to a long run in TITANS, several miniseries, and eventually a successful solo series of his own, originated by writer Chuck Dixon and artist Scott McDaniel. The Nightwing identity has even made its way into the mainstream media, having been heavily featured and merchandised in THE NEW BATMAN ADVENTURES, the second series of the successful and critically acclaimed Batman cartoons by the award-winning Dini/Timm/Burnett production team.

     October 7, 2002 | We've Got Letters (Oct 6)
    From Silver Bullet Comics
    Letters, We’ve Got Letters!
    Sunday, October 6
    By Marv Wolfman


    How did the entire concept of the Teen Titans came about? Was it DC's intention for it to complete with the X-Men or was it a surprise hit? Had you and George Perez always had the idea of Cyborg, Raven and Star fire, back in Marvel? Why did DC not include Firestorm within the Teen Titans. Who had come up with the concept of Nightwing?

    I will assume you’re asking about The New Teen Titans and not the original group. I don’t know who created that group – it could have been the editors or the writer, Bob Haney. Maybe someone out there knows? As for my group, I was leaving Marvel and coming over to DC (in those days you could only work for one company and not both) and was getting my assignments. My only request was no team-up books, so, naturally, I was assigned to DC Presents and Brave & Bold, both team-up books. Therefore, my first order of business was to get off those titles.

    Len Wein and I had written a story or two for the original Teen Titans way back in the late 60s, and I always had a warm spot for those characters, so I asked Len – who at this point had become an editor at DC – if we could revive the title. I went home and came up with the characters, so, no, there was not always a Starfire, Cyborg or Raven. You can read my introduction for the first Teen Titans Archives to see how they came about. Len and I went into publisher Jenette Kahn’s office and pitched my idea. Jenette said she did not like the previous version of the Titans and therefore wasn’t hot on the idea, but we said we’d do it better. Honestly, that’s all we said. Jenette, who trusted us, said fine.

    As I fleshed out the characters I ran into George Perez at the Marvel offices. I mentioned to him that I was working on a new version of the Titans and would he be interested in drawing it. George thought the book would last maybe a half dozen issues, and there was a chance he could also draw the Justice League, which was the book he really wanted to do, so he said yes. George then designed the look of each and every one of the characters.

    We showed Jenette what we had done and she liked it so much she decided we should do a 16 page original Titans story that they would put in free in DC Presents #26 to get people interest.

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     April 1, 2000 | Millenium Edition
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    TALES OF THE TEEN TITANS #44 (Jul 1984)
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    If this issue wins out of fan votes, then it'll be reprinted as a DC Comics Millennium Edition. Go directly to the vote selection and choose your favourite.


    Written by Marv Wolfman; art and cover by George Perez and Romeo Tanghal

    Former Robin Dick Grayson made his debut as a new hero -- Nightwing -- in this pivotal 1984 issue that featured the origin of the voiceless Teen Titan named Jericho and his father, the assassin known as Deathstroke.